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西村健太朗のシュート解禁には大反対だ

先日、西村が『相手も研究しているのでシュートを使って投球の幅を広げたい』と語ったとの記事を目にした。
先に結論から言いたい。
『大反対である』
但し、新シーズンに向けて他球団への牽制という意味で語り実際はシーズンで使わないという事も有り得るので、その点は留意しておきたい。
(私の記憶に間違いがなければ去年も同様の発言が有ったと思う)
では彼が本気でシュートを使う場合、私が何故反対するのか理由を述べていく。
大まかに言えば以下の2点になる。
①抑えなら現在の主な持ち球である145Kオーバーの直球、スライダー、フォークで球種は十分である。
彼が考えるべきは持ち球の精度を上げることであり、持ち球を増やす事では無いと考える
抑えというポジションは先発と違い目の前の相手だけに全力で行くポジションであり、後の打席への撒き餌や伏線は必要ない。
なので緩い変化球や目先を変える目的だけの変化球は余程余裕が無ければ使えなしキャッチャーも要求しない。
西村のシュートの場合、厳密に言えば目先を変えるだけでは無く、右打者への外のボールに集まる傾向の高い西村~阿部の配球に対して、打者が踏み込みにくくするのが主な目的だろうが、私から見ればその考え方こそが危ないと思う。
1点差や1発で同点になる場面でまさか内角にシュートを選択する愚策はないだろうが、ランナーが塁上を賑わせている状況で一気にダブルプレーを狙いたい場面でのシュートは諸刃の剣となる。
当然、相手が一流打者なら狙ってるし、そこへ甘めに抜け気味のシュートが来たらゲームを壊しかねない致命傷になる。
また緊迫する場面であれば尚更甘く行ってはいけないと余計な力が入り、失投の確率が上がるし、コースを狙いすぎればボールになり易いし、下手をすればデッドボールを与えて益々投球が窮屈になる
去年西村が相手に当ててしまった後、その動揺がピッチングに表れてしまっている。
得てしてこうなると相手打線はかさになって攻撃してくる。
そして一度火がついてしまった打線を抑えるのは厳しい。
それならば、私は今の持ち球の精度をもっと上げる方が現実的であり、リスクも少ないと思う。
特に西村の場合はアウトローの直球の制球力にまだまだ改善の余地があるはずだ。
西村の直球は一打席で簡単に打ち返せるほど安易なボールではないので、アウトローへの制球力を上げれば十分カウントを有利にできる。
そして現状では投げすぎの傾向があるフォークの効果が倍増し空振りが増えるだろう。
②フォークボールという肘に負担がかかるボールを多投している上、これで更に負担がかかるシュートを投球の組み立てに入れれば登板過多に耐えられないし、怪我のリスクが大きくなる。
西村は2009年に肘の手術をしており、この怪我の理由の一つとしてシュートの多投を自分で上げていた。
ただ菅野や山口が投げるような肘を捻らないワンシーム系のシュートならリスクが少ないが、西村が以前投げていたシュートは、それとは違い捻る投げ方だ。
私は西村の野球人生の為にもシュートは封印しておいて欲しいと願っている。
確かに一昨年、去年と日本シリーズ等の大事な場面での期待を裏切るピッチングは誉められたモノではない。
だが冷静になって欲しい、去年彼がペナントレースで残した実績は巨人軍の歴史にも燦然と輝くモノである筈だ。
マシソン、山口と比べても成績では負けていない。
彼らと比べて『安心感』では劣るかもしれないが、そもそも彼らとは役割も投手としての長所、短所が違うので彼らが抑えをやって西村以上の成績を修めるとは限らないし、私には思えない。
最後に冒頭で述べたが『シュート解禁宣言』は他球団への牽制である可能性もあるので、私はそちらであることを切に願っている。
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    フォークが肘を痛めやすいかもというお話。私もフォークをよく投げていたので、実体験のみで科学的根拠の無いお話ならできるかもしれません。
    女性が指先の先端がとがったヒールを履くと膝痛、腰痛になるという話を聞いたことがあります(男なんでこれは未体験)。これに近い雰囲気に思います。例えば指先を固めて、ヒールで足首も固めると、歩いて発生する衝撃が指先に集中しますよね。で、これを疲れたり痛くなって庇いだすと膝、腰に来る。要するに関節が衝撃を分散しているんですね。庇ってバランスを崩すと次の関節に衝撃が行く。
    今度はバッティング。芯を捕らえれば衝撃は少ないです。でも、根っこで捕らえると手がとても痺れますよね?特に木製は(笑)。
    ここで本筋のフォーク。フォークはボールをはさみます。指で完全にロック。または指がロックされてる状態。ここら辺は関節の先天性があるので、どちらになるかはその人次第。その状態で投げるのはバッティングで言うところの芯を外した状態で投げる感じです。思いっきり打つんですけど飛ばない。思いっきり投げるんですけど落ちる。つまりストレートを投げる(芯で打つ)より、リリース時に反作用の衝撃が発生してるんですね。つまった時の衝撃だと思って頂ければイメージしやすいですかと?
    つづきまして、ヒールの話と連動するんですが、指を固定しつつ投げる。更にフォークは如何に回転を掛けないかがブレーキ・変化に影響を与えます。理想は回転をかけちゃいけないんです。なのでチョットだけ手首を固めに使います。思いっきりスナップを効かしてしまうと回転が掛かってしまうので(笑)。で、思いっきり力が集約するリリースポイントでボールが抜けていく。こんな流れですが…指・手首を半固定してしまうことで、リリースの衝撃が必然的に肘へ向かってしまいます。フォークを投げれば投げるほど、疲れてきて握力も落ちます。そこですっぽ抜けないように力をこめてはさみます。固定が強くなっていきます。どうしても力みます。衝撃を分散できなくなります。痛めます。
    私は肘が痛くなったのでSFFに切り替えました(笑)。こっちはボールが回転しても良く、手首も効かして良い球種なので。シーム(いわゆる縫い目)に指掛けても全然問題なく、むしろ適当に掛けた方が面白い変化するので便利。肘はいつしか痛くなくなりました。
    あくまで、私個人の経験則なので無責任なお話ですが、何か参考になってくれれば嬉しいなぁと思って記載しましたです。長文失礼しました。

  540. OOH00064177 より:

    初めて投稿させていただきます。
    質問させていただきたいのですが、最近よく目にするのですが、フォークボールを投げるとなぜ肘に負担がかかるのですか。
    それと西村はストレートを右打者に当ててしまうことがよくありますがあれはなぜそのようになるのでしょうか

  541. 管理人 より:

    小次郎さん コメント有り難うございます
    仰る通りで全面同意です
    西本や東尾なんてぶつけても平然としてましたよね。。
    衣笠にぶつけて肩甲骨を骨折?させた西本なんて。。 苦笑
    西村のような純朴な好青年には無理な要求でしょうし
    逆に阿部がそんなリード出来ないでしょうね
    それとこれも同意なんですが
    西村のスライダーの精度は明らかに落ちてますよね
    もっと直球とスライダーの精度を上げることの方が
    彼のスタイルに合致した投球が出来ると思います
    貴重な御意見有難うございました
    今後とも宜しくお願い致します

  542. 小次郎 より:

    そうですね。私もこのお話を聞いたときは止めるべきと感じました。西村とシュートって威力のわりに相性が悪い球種と思ってます。
    元々劇場型の投手で、どんなに良いピッチングをしていても不可解なボールをイキナリ投げるのも西村。唐突な失投がある意味でスパイスになるのは全力で投げる抑えだからこそ。シュートは踏み込ませないという大きなメリットがありながら、シュートを多用していた時代の西村は長打を食らうのもそのシュートが多かった。スライダーが曲がるようになり、フォークで三振を取れるようになった2011年から今のスタイルで定着。ぶつけて動揺するような投手はシュートを武器にするのが致命的に向いていない。東尾や西本聖のように(1)本当はコントロールが良いくせに(2)ぶつけても怪我させても全く気にしない投手向きの球種。この2つの条件が絶対必須。西村はこの属性に逆行していると思う。「ケースによって使うこともある」程度で十分なんですよね。2012年は多少(それでも10%くらい)。2013年は何度か見ましたが、間違いなくその頻度は大きく下がりました。
    失投癖のある西村には最も危険な球種になると思ってます。フォークは抜けても、腕が振れていればチェンジアップのように効いている時があるので良し。それよりスライダーの精度が落ちているので、そちらに力を入れて欲しいと思います。もしくはワンシームかカット。縦変化の期待できるフォームなので、見てみたいんですけどね。

  543. 管理人 より:

    Mさん コメント有り難うございます
    暖かいお言葉有難うございます
    当blogを今後とも宜しくお願い致します

  544. 管理人 より:

    ジャビットさん コメント有り難うございます
    勘違いはしていないのですが私の説明不足のようで申し訳ありません
    彼がシュートを投げ始めたのが2006年頃と記憶しておりますが
    2009年に肘を手術し自らシュートを封印しました
    その後は全くなげていないとは言い切れませんが
    少なくとも割合は微々たるものだと思います
    私は今シーズンの投球でシュートの割合を増やすという考え方に
    反対している訳です
    解りにくい文章で申し訳無いです
    今後とも宜しくお願い致します

  545. より:

    ジャビットさん
    西村、去年シュートって投げましたっけ?
    ナチュラルにシュートしてしまったインハイへのストレートは見た気がしますが。
    左右の幅を広げたいのであれば、西村のコントロールがあればストレートで十分かな、と考えます。
    投げ切る気持ちの強さが・・・ですが(笑)
    これは私感ですが、先発の頃もうまくシュートを使いこなしていた印象も薄いので・・・

  546. 管理人 より:

    oosakag20110311さん コメント有り難うございます
    やはり「ブラフ」だと思われますか。。。
    その可能性が高いですよね
    私もoosakag20110311さんが最後の行で仰った通り
    直球を投げる勇気は彼に必要だと思います
    今後とも宜しくお願い致します

  547. 管理人 より:

    kakontyuさん コメント有り難うございます
    野村氏は仰る通りシュートの重要性を説いてますね
    私も主に先発投手に関してはその考え方に同意です
    ただ抑えに関しては個人的に優先度は低いと考えています
    そこは考え方の違いなので御意見の主旨は理解できます
    『シュートが怪我には繋がらない』という主旨の御意見については
    私も現代野球においてそのような考え方があるのは存じています
    但し、私は個体差があると思うので西村自身が
    以前の怪我がシュートの多投が原因の一つと語っていたので
    西村の現在の投げ方では危ないと考えています
    但し投げ方を変えてワンシーム系なら問題はないと思いますが
    それでも①が問題になると考えます
    他の御意見については同意です
    貴重な御意見有難うございました
    今後とも宜しくお願い致します

  548. より:

    再度の横やり、失礼します。
    いずれにしても、彼は昨年シーズンは球界トップクラスの抑えだったわけで。
    現時点では下手な小細工をするより、Aクラスのストレートの質+コントロールをSクラスまで高めるところで勝負してもらいたいな、と個人的には思います。
    もちろん澤村君とは違う方向で(笑)
    駄文失礼しました。
    最後に、ブログいつも興味深く拝見しております。
    大変でしょうが、頑張ってください。

  549. ジャビット より:

    勘違いしてませんか?
    解禁という言葉を使ってますが、勝負球でも使うなど頻度増やすという意味だと思いますよ
    昨シーズンも少なからず投げてますし、本格的に中継ぎ 抑え転向前は、西村=シュートだったわけで…

  550. oosakag20110311 より:

    「シュートがあるぞ」と思わせておく効果はデカイですからね。この時期に言うという事は、「ブラフ」だと私は思います。故障の辛さと壊さを西村は知ってる筈ですから。
    西村に言いたいのは、ストレートを投げる勇気をもてという事だけですね。

  551. kakontyu より:

    コメント失礼します。
    私は別にいいと思いますけど…。
    私は野村克也さんにいい意味でも悪い意味でも多大な影響を受けているのでそこはちょっとダメなのですが…。
    ストレートとフォークでワンペア、スライダーとシュートでツーペアができ、まさに投球の幅が広がると思います。
    そして肘を痛める、というのは迷信です。
    西本聖さん曰く、指先のちょっとした加減でシュートを投げることができるようです。
    シュート=悪というわけではないので別に覚えてもいい、というのが私の意見です。
    とはいえ、管理人様がおっしゃるように、ホームランの危険性が高まります。
    ちょっと間違えれば失投になりますし…。
    そこも管理人様がおっしゃったように原点、外角低めの精度をあげるべきです。
    長々と失礼しました。

  552. 管理人 より:

    ジャビットさん 再度のコメント有り難うございます
    Mさんのコメントへの御返答とは思いますが
    僭越ですがコメントのお礼を言わせてください
    有難うございました
    今後とも宜しければ当blogでの自由闊達な議論をお待ちしております

  553. ジャビット より:

    西村に必要なのは、強い心
    その通りですね(笑)
    山口もマウンドに来るときは、凄い顔色とか言われてますが、安心感はしっかりあるわけで、切り替え?の方法を聞いてみたりしたら変わるのかもしれませんね
    合ってるかは分かりませんが、フォークがしっかり使えるようになってきたのに伴い、シュートの頻度を減らしたような気がするので、ケガの影響とは思っていませんでした
    TV中継?か何かで配球見たときに、シュートの頻度も少ないがある程度あったので、解禁という言葉を使うことに違和感を感じて、他のブログでも、頻度を増やすことだろうと書かれてましたので…
    他球団牽制の意味もあるのかも、しれませんが、実際にやるかは別として、毎年他球団に研究されていくので配球変えて研究の対策としてやることはさまざまな選手がやってますし、やろうとすること自体が一流選手としていいと思います
    一流VS一流は技術は勿論ですが、対策と騙し合いの勝負ですから
    山口も毎年新球挑戦してますし…
    まあ、シュート率増やすかは別として、相手の対策を上回る投球をして、"安心感のある"ピッチングに期待したいですね
    再度投稿で長文失礼しました