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前回の記事で多くの御意見を頂き、どれもGに対する愛情が強く感じられ、深い感銘を受けました。
勿論、前回の記事に対する肯定的な意見だけではなく、否定的な見解を持ってる方も多くいらっしゃるように見受けられました。
しかし、どの御意見も本質を突いた素晴らしい御意見だと思います。
よって今回は「4連覇を達成する為には、どういう戦い方をすれば良いのか?」というテーマについて記事にするのではなく、もう少しこの問題を考えていきたいと思います。

今回は綺麗事抜きで、筆者の本音を語っていきます。
よって気分を害されるかもしれませんが御了承下さい。
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コメンター諸氏が議論されている「選手の育成」と「優勝(日本一)」を両立させる事は、永遠のテーマである事は間違いない。
しかし、筆者は「どちらを優先させるべきか?」という問われる事が有れば、間違いなく前者を取る。

それは決して「優勝」を二の次に考えているからではなく、以前のような「なりふり構わない補強」は難しくなり「選手の育成」を怠れば優勝の可能性が遠のくと考えているからである。

前回の3連覇(07~09)は、平たく言えば「補強」によるものだと思う。
小笠原・ラミレスという「打の2枚看板」と、グライシンガー・クルーンの「投の2枚看板」を補強し、間違いなく06年のチームとは別チームになった。
特に08年はラミレス・グライシンガー・クルーンという同一リーグの外国人を「強奪」し「他チームの戦力を削いで自チームの戦力を底上げする」という一石二鳥の荒業を行った。

勿論、その間に坂本・山口・越智等の若い新戦力の台頭も見逃せないし、谷・木村拓・大道・ゴンザレス・古城など、他チームとのトレードや戦力外になった選手が活躍した事も大きな要因ではある。
つまり、この間(06年に獲得した選手も含める)に行った数々の戦力補強策が功を奏した訳である。
しかし、それでも前段の看板選手がチームの軸として貢献しなければ、3連覇はあり得なかっただろう。

個人的には「プロ」のスポーツなので、この行為は「チームを本気で優勝させる為には必要」であり、常勝という高い目標を掲げているGには、至極当然の戦略だと思う。
しかし、この「他球団から良い選手を獲得する」という戦略は、時代と共に難しくなってきている。

まず、FAになったスター選手(特に投手)はメジャー進出を目指し、国内FAを行使する選手は減少傾向にある。
それでも日本の他球団に移籍を希望する選手についても、以前のようにGが他球団より先んじて獲得できる状況ではない。
現実に戦力補強の面でも、ホークスの資金力に押されてしまっている。
本気でHとGが獲得競争する状況では、分が悪くなっている。

更に外国人の国内移籍について言えば、確実にHに押されており、ここでも競合では負けるケースが多いだろう。

このように有力選手の獲得が難しくなっている状況では、ドラフトで有望な選手を獲得し、それを育成しなければ戦力の先細りは当然と言える。
しかし、残念ながらGのドラフト戦略は上手く言っているとは言いがたい。

投手については、若い有望選手が居ないことはない。
むしろ全球団を見渡しても、上手く行っている方とも言える。
だが一方で、野手については不満があると言わざるを得ない。

以前の記事で触れたが、野手については将来の主軸を託せる魅力的な選手が残念ながら見当たらない(岡本については1年目なので、未知な部分が多いので含んでいない)
少なくとも高卒3年目以内の若い選手で、将来の侍ジャパン入りの可能性を秘めている選手は皆無に等しい。

では、個別に若い野手(高卒3年目以内の支配下選手)の将来性を見ていく。
(※あくまでも筆者の見立てである)

★和田恋(高卒2年目)
手首と下半身の強さを感じるが、本質的には中距離ヒッターである。
2軍では4番を任せられる事が多く、ポジションもサード・ファーストを守るケースが多いので、G首脳陣は将来的には主軸を期待しているようだ。

しかし、高卒2年目という点を考慮にいれても、1軍のクリーンアップを任せるには小粒感は否めないし、スイングスピードには魅力を感じない。
又、将来的に考えても、彼に1軍のサード・ファーストを任せるとは到底思えない。

個人的には彼が1軍のスタメンに名を連ねるには、セカンドか外野で、守備が平均以上のレベルになるしかない。
そうなれば6・7番を任せられる素材ではあるし、更に伸びれば3番という評価になる。
一方で俊足ではないので1番は難しい。

残念ながら、バッティングに関しては、スケール感という意味では中井の同時期と比べて魅力を感じない。

★辻東倫(高卒3年目)
内野守備については年々進歩の後が見られる。
1年目はスローイングも不安定で、捕球の際には腰高が目立ちイージーエラーを連発していた。

しかし、打撃に関しては「力負けするスイング」が多いので、内角直球に対応できていない。
外のボールに関しては巧く対応するセンスはもっているが1軍では厳しい。
1年目の彼を見た時は、バッティングセンスを強く感じたので非常に期待したが、筆者の想像よりも伸びてこなかった。

彼の場合も俊足持ちではないので、守備で安定感がもっと出てこないと1軍には呼ばれない。
そしてレギュラーになるには打撃で結果を出さないと厳しい。

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非常に残念ではあるが、両名に対する筆者の期待感は大きくない。
あくまでも現時点での話だが。。。

そして残念なのが、Gには高卒3年目以内(21歳以下)の野手が、上記2名と岡本を足した計3名しか居ない事。
育成契約を含めても4人しかいない。

他の球団を見ると
ホークス    9名(支配下4名・育成5名)
バファローズ  6名(支配下6名)
ファイターズ 10名(支配下10名・大谷除く)
マリーンズ   4名(支配下3名・育成1名)
ライオンズ   4名(支配下3名・育成1名)
イーグルス   4名(支配下2名・育成2名)

タイガース   3名(支配下3名)
カープ     6名(支配下5名・育成1名)
ドラゴンズ   3名(支配下3名)
ベイスターズ  4名(支配下4名)
スワローズ   2名(支配下2名)

こう見てみると、Gだけが決して少ないわけではない。
だが、他球団の1軍主力クラスを見渡しても、T・Dを除いてG以上の高年齢化が進んでいる球団は見当たらない(ここにきてDはようやく重い腰を上げたようである)
よって、主力の平均年齢が20台中盤から後半のチームなら、特に問題視する必要性は感じない。
しかし、Gは相当まずい状況になりつつある。

技術的にも成績も頭打ち感が強い坂本、年齢的に微妙な時期に入ってきた長野・亀井、片岡、既に下降線に入っている阿部・村田・相川いうスタメンの顔ぶれを見ても憂鬱になる。
しかも、いまだに井端・高橋由等のベテランに頼らねば打線を組めない状況も深刻である。

こういう状況で、過去のGが取ってきた方策はFA補強だった。
しかし、前述の通り、この方策は今の時代では難しい。
そして、Gファン期待の岡本・和田・辻が戦力になるには、先ほど触れたようになかなか難しいし、仮に戦力になったとしても、技術的にも体力的にもまだ先の話になる。

答えは一つしかない。
年齢的に中堅になり、それなりに経験を積んできた大田・中井・橋本・藤村・立岡・小林を積極的に起用して戦力にする他無い。
そして同じ世代の坂口・大累・北・吉川の中から、一人でも多く戦力にしていかないと、来年以降の展望は開けてこない。
近未来の戦力として期待をかけるなら、もっとチャンスを与えるべきで、期待しない戦力ならば、言葉は悪いが「見切り」をつけて、積極的に血の入れ換えが必要になる
その上で足りない戦力を外国人でしっかり補っていかないと、少なくとも野手陣は優勝争い出来る戦力ではない。

既存の戦力で来年以降も戦うなら「必要な戦力」と「不必要な戦力」の見極めが急務である。
その為には、首脳陣の眼力が重要になる。
これを実行しない限り「新成」というスローガンは言葉だけで終わるだろう。

そして、それをベースに更に魅力あるジャイアンツにするには、スケール感のある和製スラッガーを育成せねばならない。
それは岡本に期待したいが、彼だけに頼らず、これからドラフトで積極的に指名せねばならない。
3割・20本が完成形の選手でも良いが、やはり2割8分・40本の選手が一人欲しい。

決して諦めずに、ロマンを追い続ける事が、見ている我々にとっても「心の拠り所」になる。
「いつか第二のゴジラ松井が現れる」という期待は、ファンとしてはずっと持ち続けたい。
勝てば良いと考えがちだが、勝てなくなった時に「夢見る選手が居なければ」目も当てられない魅力ゼロのチームに成り下がる。

筆者の子供の頃に王が引退して、Gから日本を代表するHRバッターの出現を待ち続けたが、なかなか現れなかった。
しかし、信じ続けた。。。。
そしてようやく「ゴジラ」が現れた。
その時のワクワク感はハンパ無かったし、彼のHRで熱狂した。
もう一度夢を見させてほしい。。。

時代は変わり、昔のような長距離砲の出現は厳しくなっている。
しかし、L中村やF中田が出現したように、可能性が全く無いわけではない。
そして、現状のGでは最も可能性を秘めている大田泰示を見限ったわけではない。

「出よ!スラッガー!!」「出よ!HRバッター!!」
「GIANTS」という名に相応しい、スケールの大きいプレーヤーの出現を切に願う。


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    catさんへ
    投稿されてる方への批判をされてるようでしたので、コメントさせて頂きました。
    気分を害されてしまったら、、そんなつもりはなかったので。
    深い意味はありません。
    純粋にジャイアンツ戦を楽しみにしてまして、勝つことももちろんですが、それ以上に楽しめる選手を見たいという思いがあります。
    ただそれだけのことですので。
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    例えばの話だと思いますよ
    ここはジャイアンツについて熱く語る場所ですから
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    人の意見に意見するべきでない正論です のでマナー違反お許しください
    普段の生活で見下されてるから巨人が勝って憂さを晴らしたいんだー  それはお気の毒に
    自分の事じゃないなんて言い訳通じません なぜならそんな意見がまともな生活してる人間から出ませんから
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    普段の生活で見下されたらなぜ巨人が勝ったら憂さ晴らしかその法則が自分は頭悪いので理解出来ませんが
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    育成も上積みの1つであり、非常に重要なミッションです。これができなければ、今後、選手も
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    個人的には、これまでコメントしてきたとおり主様と同様の意見です。もう少しうまい起用方法が
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    選手への期待度、首脳陣への信頼度の違いで意見は異なると思います。それは当然のことです。
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    冷静かつ建設的な主様のご意見に敬意を表します。

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    お邪魔するのは久々ですが,もちろんずっと拝読させていただいていました。
    このようなコメントをシーズン中に載せざるを得ない管理人さんの複雑な心境をお察しいたしますと,私も胸が痛くなります。
    さて,今年はとにかくやることなすこと上手くいかないな,というのが私の率直な思いです。
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    今までが順調に?きていただけですよね。
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    それでも監督は苦しい台所事情でも何とかやりくりしようとしています。
    それはもちろん「優勝」するためです。
    監督は当然「いかにペナントを制するか」しか考えていないはずです。
    史上まれに見る「低レベル(成績)」でのペナント争いとなってますが,最後に勝つのは我が巨人軍だと信じています,というか勝たないと「ダメ」です。
    理由は皆さんご存知の通りです。
    もちろん来期以降の戦いや選手起用等もあるでしょう。
    でも現場は現段階でそれを見据えることは全くなくはないでしょうが,そんな余裕はないと思います。
    「いかに優勝するか」で頭がいっぱいです。
    私はとにかく今いるG戦士たち全員の奮起を期待して後半戦を楽しみたいと思います。(イライラすることが多いかもしれませんが・・・)
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  375. taku より:

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    管理人様の意見に全面同意です。
    辻には私はもう少し期待してますが、確かに将来の4番は難しいですね。
    岡本もイースタンで、今の時期にホームラン0では、中距離打者でしょう。
    やはり、大田の育成を誤ったのが全てです。
    逆にベイは、誰もが投手力が課題と思っているときに、地元スターの筒香をドラ1で獲得し、リーグを代表する選手となりました。
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  376. R11 より:

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    今年のSBや育成の巨人と呼ばた頃のGのように若手の台頭を期し勝ちながら育てるのが理想だと思いますが、今年の残りは阿部の巻き返しに注目していきたい。そのサポートのためにもサカチョーにはもっとステップアップして欲しいし、噂のカスティーヨにも多いに期待したい。
    とにかく今年は勝って欲しい、個人的にはそんな思いです。

  377. 伊予之鈍才 より:

    豪華客船瀬戸内パイレーツ1世号を造りたい。伊予之鈍才です。私が言っては申し訳ないかもしれませんがまさに名前が上がっている選手と心中する覚悟持ってやらないと選手が育だたない。みんな頑張れ!

  378. kametta 947 より:

    4連覇に挑戦出来るのはジャイアンツだけです。
    過去にもそれを成し遂げたのはV 9した川上巨人のみです。
    挑戦したチームはあれど、未だに成し遂げられていません。
    それを放棄するのは、プロとして背信行為だと思います。
    この先その権利を掴むことがいつになるかさえわかりません。
    4連覇に挑戦すべきです!
    もがいて足掻いて挑戦する
    若手も中堅もベテランも……
    そして結果は甘んじて受け入れる……
    今はそれでいいと思います。

  379. スズシュウー より:

    初めてコメントします。
    使わなくちゃ育つものも育たない、と思います。
    中途半端なFA選手を何故獲り続けたのか?と、ここ数年は非常に不満でした。このままでは他球団の血の入れ替えを手助けするのみです。
    「3番橋本、4番大田、5番中井」を今季中に見たいです。せめて大田を4番で使い続けて欲しいです。
    この3連戦のスタメンに注目したいです。

  380. 内海のスローカーブ より:

    いつもおつかれさまです。
    巨人は、長嶋監督時代いい打者が、沢山いましたが、あまり優勝できませんでした。そこで球団が、だした結論は、勝つためには、投手力ということで山下部長の下、ドラフトで投手力優先で補強をしてきました。そこでこのような勝てるチームが、出来ました。ですが、山下部長は、投手能力を見る力は、ありますが、打者は、見る能力が、ありません。そこで今回のドラフトを見てこれが、巨人のドラフトだと思いました。ドラフト1位でその年の一番いい打者(ホームランの打てる打者)を取る。2位~5位で即戦力、将来性のある投手を取る。毎年、ドラフトで競合1位の投手が、活躍するとは、かぎりません。
    今まで取ってこなかった分を北選手などで補強しているのでトレードは、いい補強をしていると思います。
    あと巨人は、全国放送を無理にでも再開すべきです。視聴率が、取れなくても枠買いという方法が、あります。巨人の最大の強みは、全国にいるファンであり、それは全国放送で獲得してきました。このままでは、ファンが、減って他球団と同列レベルとなるでしょう。
    長文すいませんでした。

  381. 口臭男 より:

    育成と優勝の天秤は勿論優勝を優先すべきである。しかしながら現在のGは優勝(実績重視)を優先に戦いながら勝ちきれない。大事なのは実力至上主義。後は管理人さんと全て同じです。

  382. リモコン より:

    更新お疲れさまです
    ジャイアンツファンなのに負けて喜ぶ人はいないでしょう
    かといって観ていて熱いものを感じられない野球で勝ってもつまらないです
    きっと管理人様もジャイアンツに勝って欲しい
    でも魅力ある野球を観たい
    そんな思いなんでしょう
    論点ずらしてまで批判したがる方々は放っておきましょう

  383. 北のユタカ より:

    こんばんは。この2回の管理人さんのご意見及びそれに対する皆様のコメント大変興味深く拝見しました。
    今後勝ち続けるためには今の20代中盤のメンバーの成長が重要というご意見についてはまさしくその通りだと思います。
    ただ、「育成」と「優勝」のどちらを優先するかという点に関しては、やはりまずは「優勝」を優先するのがプロの集団としては筋ではないかと思います。(「勝ちながら育てる」ではなく「育てながら勝つ」という言葉が一般的であることも、やはり「勝つ」ことが前提であることを表しているのではないでしょうか。)
    今年の巨人の観客動員減少は確かに大きな問題だと思います。ただ、その原因は「勝てないこと」につきると私は思います。実数発表以降最高の観客動員数を記録した昨年だって、今年と同じような野球をしていたわけで、その差は勝っているか負けているかだと思いますので。
    負けても客を呼べる打者が現代に存在しうるのかというのも疑問です。中村選手、中田選手クラスですら、「負けても見られたから満足」と言ってもらえる存在といえるかどうか。別に彼らが過去の選手と比べて魅力がないというわけではありません。野球自体が昔ほど話題性を提供できるコンテンツではない以上、個人の魅力だけでライト層を引きつけるのは難しいのではないでしょうか。
    ですので、まずは中堅・ベテランのレギュラー陣をメインにして試合に勝ち、20代中盤の準レギュラーを一部で使っていく。準レギュラーは与えられた場面でしっかり結果を残し、スタメンに起用されるようになったらケガをしない。そして、一人ずつでも世代交代を進めていく(坂本選手、長野選手のように。)。それぞれの理想とは異なるとは思いますが、現状それが最適解だと思います。
    駄文・長文失礼しました。

  384. かぷ より:

    投稿お疲れ様です。
    DeNAとの三連戦‥負けはしたもののスタメンは国産で、小粒でロマンは欠けますが見たい選手も多くて私は好きです。
    試合で使わないと成長に繋がらないというのも、優勝が至上命題なのもわかります。
    私としては最後まで優勝争いに絡みつつ高齢化による絶望感を感じさせないで欲しい‥そんな少しハードルを下げた欲張りな気持ちで。
    原さんはどちらも成そうと我慢して使っているよう私は思います。
    (小林に関してはカード2試合つかって欲しい)
    ドラフトにおいては魅力ある野手を‥も同意です。
    高卒2〜3大卒2年目くらいで侍JAPANに選ばれるような野手に飢えてます。
    先の事は置いといて、後半戦は衰えなんて言わせない位奮起してくれる事を願って‥応援します。
    (ギータや森君のスイングいいなぁ‥)

  385. 風来坊 より:

    育成しながら勝つことは難しいですね。
    相変わらず現実見えてない人が何人かいて笑っちゃいますが(笑)
    私だったら育成するから優勝出来なくてもごめんねーなんてこと言われたら、そのシーズン全く試合を観ないと思いますね。ファンへの裏切り行為でしょう。
    正直、大田に期待して良いのかもわからない。和田恋は中井を越えられるかどうか。岡本?知らん。育つなら育つだろうし、並の選手に終わる可能性もある。
    高校生に拘ってないで、完成形が見えやすい大学生野手を2位位で取れば良いと思うんですよね。秋山も柳田も、地方の大学卒ですし。

  386. ごくう より:

    管理人さんのおっしゃる通りですね。
    一部人のコメントや管理人さんの意見に否定的な方がいらっしゃいますね。
    人のコメントに批判する意味が分かりません。
    ここは管理人さんのブログに対して意見する場であって、投稿した人の意見にわざわざ批判する場ではないですよ。
    自分の意見を投稿しましょう。
    ジャイアンツが勝つことを求めるのは普段の生活で見下されてるから、勝つことで憂さ晴らしをしたいんだー、とかね。
    あくまでプロ野球という娯楽の中で、管理人さんの素晴らしい文章能力とジャイアンツ愛に感化されてみなさんコメントしてるんです。
    最低限のルールは守りましょう。

  387. うなさん より:

    彼ら、若手ばかり使える訳がありません。年俸に対する責任がある訳ですからそれは積み上げてきた評価=信頼なんです。
    小林とフォームを固めた橋本を入れるだけでまた違でしょう。私は、立岡は今シーズン使われると思います。首脳陣に使いたいて信頼されているバッターですから
    厳しいことを言うと巨人に入団した者の宿命としかいえないですね。若手のファンもいますが、三連覇の立役者のファンもいるんですよ?それこそ相川や片岡のファンだっているでしょう。
    でも、このままじゃ駄目なんです。似ていますね。阿部と村田 意地を見せたい 終わりかけと思われてるのを払拭したい。ベテランの意地だって充分必要なパーツです。年齢と打撃がピタリとハマると2人ともキレイなホームラン打ちますよね
    何度も言いますが、もう終わりかけと思われた選手が活躍してる選手たくさんいます。でもそれには時間がかかるから、中堅の引っ張りと若手の力が、どうしても必要なんです。
    中堅て言うのは坂本 亀井と長野の3人のことだと思いますよ?ある意味亀井のようなレギュラーの定着目指した方がいいある程度結果を出しなさい。そうすれば、怪我や不振で2軍に落ちても治れば、また使ってもらえます(__)
    今、思ったら、この3人はそういう使われて方をしてます。橋本 大田 中井は全く使われてない訳ではないです。
    個人的には阿部と村田は週1には休養を入れてほしい。そうすれば一塁や三塁に若手を使えるし負けるかて言う奮起にもなる。本人も代打の勉強も将来必要ですから、徐々にの世代交代が大切なんです。
    一気にやったらチームが崩壊します。

  388. やま より:

    更新お疲れ様です
    私が不満に感じるのは ドラフトでの野手の見る目ですね ここ数年ファームでのチーム打撃成績見ても常にチーム打率 チーム本塁打が下位のほうです
    育成以前よりも まずはいるところから見直す必要があると思うのですが 2軍から1軍へ這い上がる道筋ができないとなかなかチームは活性しませんね 

  389. 名無しの兎 より:

    お疲れ様です
    筆者さんの言う通りですね…
    近年のドラフトでは即戦力の投手や野手、もしくは駿足小粒な選手が殆どで、いわゆる「甲子園を沸かせたスラッガー」を獲ることが殆どありませんでしたからね
    一昨年にしても、「何故小林なんや!競合覚悟で森を指名せんかい!」とどれだけ憤ったことか
    それもあって昨年岡本を指名したのには驚きましたが、彼もどちらかというとミドルヒッターでしょうね
    「右の鈴木健」ぐらいになれたら大成功と思いますがどうでしょう?
    また、今年二軍の四番として固定されている和田恋
    彼に関しては正直あまり期待してません
    二軍で打率.230はあまりにも低過ぎる
    これで守備がまともならまだしも、それもいいとこ中井レベルですし…
    辻はまだ見ていたいですが
    まあ何れにせよ、若手育成に切り替えるのは来年以降になるでしょう
    なんせ、今はボロボロなりに連覇を継続している最中ですから

  390. RV より:

    監督の至上命題はチームを優勝に導く事です。理解されてると思いますが、育成は目標達成の手段の一つです。catさん、いさみさんは現実的だと思います。
    チームを劇的に変えるには、優勝できなかったという結果が必要なのです。ゲームじゃなく人間がプレーしているから。シーズン中にチームの崩壊を望むのですか?勝てなくてもいい、八百長ですか?ファンにたいする背信行為です。首脳陣だって若手に期待している、しかし現状スタメン連中を押し退けるストロングポイントがなく三連覇メンバーでの戦いを強いられざるをえないのではないでしょうか。

  391. T-sugari より:

    ドラフトで取ってきた若手を使わざるを得ないような立場のチームではなく、この議論が十分できるレベルのチームを維持している球団のファンであることは、贅沢でもあり、幸せですね。
    まずは理想があっての現実。
    現実にとらわれては大事なことを見失ってしまう。
    いつだって、外部・ファンの意見なんて、内情をよく知りもしないで勝手なことを言ってるだけ。
    でも私たちだって野球を全く知らない人とか、他球団のファンの人の意見にハッとさせられることも多いですよね。
    巨人が4連覇を、いや10連覇を目指すんだと言うのなら、もちろん応援するのみです。
    でも、たとえ間違っていても批判はやめません。
    もちろん人格まで否定するようなのは論外ですが、
    批判の思い付かない無いチームは、ファンですら無いと思いますから。
    ・・・完璧なチームになったら?
    急につまらなくなって、ファンやめちゃうかもですねw

  392. 30年のファン より:

    管理人様のご意見感心させられました。わたしは正直今年は優勝のがしてもチーム改革のいいチャンスだと思います。今のレギュラー頭打ちの選手が多いですし補強もはっきり言って失敗しました。3年後5年後考えてなぜこの選手をつかっているのだろう?とおもう。敢えて個人名は出しませんがーー中途半端に勝つよりはわたしたちファンも我慢しなければいけないんでしょうね。明日から後半戦、いい意味で期待を裏切ってほしいですね!

  393. cat より:

    こんにちは
    決して夢やロマンを持ち続けることを否定してるわけではありません。それはそれで素晴らしいと思います。
    ただ昔の価値観もあれば今の価値観もあります。
    別に野球や巨人が人気がなくなったわけではなく ただ単に今の時代は選択肢が増えただけだと思います。
    TVは野球の巨人戦しかない時代なら巨人の野球が1番人気でしょうが 今は球団も増え何よりサッカーやテニスやスケートや選択肢はいくつでもあります。これならファンが分散していくのは当然です。
    これを今の選手が魅力がないから人気が落ちただの プロ選手をつかまえてプロとしてどうかだの人格というか人望がないだの 次は監督、コーチ 昔は良かったが今はダメのようなことばかり言う人がいるのでキツイ言い方してしまいました
    別に管理人さんの意見を否定してるわけでも何でもないです
    昔は楽しかったと思いますが今だっていい時代で楽しいです。昔の方が楽しい人は今の時代が合わないかついてこれないかです。それ自体は悪い事でもなく仕方ないと思います
    気になったのが2012年巨人はぶっちぎりで優勝した時このままで十分と特に補強とかしなくて自分も疑問も感じなかったですが 去年タカは優勝してもなお弱点補強に抜かりはなかったです。以前監督の言われてた停滞は衰退を感じました。色んな意味でタカは強いと感じました。自分たちは甘かったんだと
    大田、到、中井、藤村にはまだまだ期待してます。1軍でやれる力はあると思ってます。ただ全員チャンスは沢山あったのにそこでつかみきれないのは本人の問題だし甘さだと思います。
    最初はいいけど息切れするのは体力が足りてないだけです。 

  394. いさみ より:

    記事の執筆お疲れ様です。前回、今回共に管理人さんと読者さんたちの良い意見交換の場としてとても興味深く読まさせていただきました。
    個人的な意見として育成を犠牲にしてでも4連覇してほしいです。それはV9以降の快挙ですし、現状の若手の状況を考えても今年だけでは変わりにくいと思いますので、今シーズンは4連覇だけを考えてほしいと考えています。自分の予想では原監督は来年以降も出来る範囲で見据えようと新成を掲げたのではないかなと。また、新成といっても坂本長野の世代をメインに底上げを図るという意味ととらえています。阿部・杉内・村田やアラフォー面子にもまだまだ使うつもりでしょう。
    育成にしても擁護したいのは1軍面子に隙がなかったとでも言いましょうか・・・やはり管理人さんの言うとおりもう2軍のレベルではない選手たちは確かにいたと思うんです。しかし、他球団とは違い選手層が厚すぎて使う機会が中々なかったとは感じます。ただそれでも使って育てなければならなかったのでしょうけど。今他球団が羨ましく見えるのは、まさしく若手を使ってきたか使ってこなかったの差だと思うんですよね・・・巨人は毎年優勝をめざし補強をする。一方他球団は期待込みで若手を使い続けるが、中々優勝は出来ないといった印象を持ちます。要するに3連覇の反動というかデメリットというか仕方のないものだとも思っています。
    自分としては連覇が途切れる+次の1年まで原監督にお願いしたいです。そこで初めて育成に専念した原采配が見れるというのが私の意見です。もちろんそんなに待って巨人がますます魅力のないチームになってしまうのではないかという危機感は私にもあります。ただ原監督が戦力を扱うのは上手いが、育成の出来ない監督という烙印を押され辞めてしまうのは正直悲しいです。次の記事も楽しみにお待ちしています。

  395. pug より:

    更新お疲れ様です。
    まさに筆者さんが書いてあるとおりの状況だと思います。
    どうしても優勝(日本一)しながら選手を育てるというのは、ずっと実質出来ている球団(まだ巨人は長くできている方だと思いますが)がないことからも難題なんだと思います。
    単純に4連覇という球団もないわけですしね。
    常に理想的に全てのポジションの選手が育ってくれるわけでもないので、補強は必須なんですが、筆者さんが書かれているとおり補強も難しいですしね。
    シーズン前から今年の補強にマスコミ等でも批判的な意見が色々出てましたが、現実に市場に出ていて補強できた選手(オリックスやヤクルトの補強選手や松坂など)の、ここまでの成績や状況をを見ると取っていてもチーム状況が劇的に変わっているような選手は居ないですしね。
    そうなると、ドラフトで獲得した選手を使い続けてものにしていくしかないんでしょうが、成績を残さないとイケない立場の監督だと、ある程度の勝敗を度外視した、思い切った若手起用などは無理だと思うので、やはり人気がありマスコミからの批判はともかく、球団とファンが我慢できる監督が指揮を取るしかないとも感じています。
    となると、やはり松井監督しかないんですよね。
    球団も分かってると思うので、ここ数年何とか監督にしようとする動きが活発化してるんでしょうけど。
    ともかく、まだ混戦なおかげで借金ターンといっても、今年もまだまだ4連覇の可能性は残ってるので頑張って欲しいところです。